gotfish8
Moderator CAMBr Board Member
Trail Coordinator - Andres Park
 OnlineCarpentersville
Semi-Pro
Posts: 803
Chapter: North
Type: Big Wheel Member
Member Since: 2010
|
 |
« on: May 09, 2012, 03:51:43 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Seanbikes
Moderator CAMBr Board Member
West President
Gingers do have a soul
 OfflineRomeoville
Pro
Posts: 4881
Chapter: West
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2006
|
|
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 04:15:33 PM » |
|
Sounds like your typical uninformed NIMBY response full of everything except facts.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Dream it, Build it, Ride it
|
|
|
Hardtail22
Offline
Sport
Posts: 102
|
|
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 04:43:00 PM » |
|
Just an FYI - some women from the "Batavia Women's Club" are leading up this outcry. It might be beneficial to sit down and actually talk to this group before they put more uninformed thoughts into the public eye. They have been going around to meetings of the different groups around town and spreading these rumors, asking them to join up to fight in their "cause". I'm sure that this is something that CAMBR has seen before from other active groups and we could quell some of the hostility toward this new trail area by relaying the actual practices that we employ as trail builders/maintainers to their club/members. This, as opposed to them spouting out the outlandish claims that we wreak havoc to the wilderness by building/maintaining trails. Currently that area is not well maintained and there is a big problem with people utilizing the area in ways that are not congruent to CAMBR's views (installing plywood jumps, building unauthorized trails, not to mention the other acts by outsiders that should not be mentioned). CAMBR could actually help maintain the area as there are quite a few members that live very close to the tri-city area that I'm sure would be willing to volunteer. It is disappointing to see how uninformed local groups can get when anything is mentioned about changing an area that is currently off limits, and is being underutilized.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Red Snail Racing
Moderator CAMBr Board Member
CAMBr Executive Director
29 and Single
Offline
Pro
Posts: 1914
Chapter: South, West and North
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2007
|
|
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 04:54:23 PM » |
|
Thanks for keeping your ear to the ground. We are working on it. This was not unexpected as there is always a fear of the the unknown. What CAMBr brings to the table is a sustainable and well maintained multi-user trail system, which is something they do not have today. Our ability to explain the benefits and educate the public is our greatest strength. But we need everyone in CAMBr to speak positively about sustainable trail building each time you have a willing listener. Make them aware that we build trails for all users, not just mountain bikers.
Thanks for your help,
Jerry
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
If you are getting advice from me, I would strongly suggest you get a second opinion.
|
|
|
johnjr75
CAMBr Member
Offline
Sport
Posts: 129
Chapter: West
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2011
|
|
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 06:42:27 PM » |
|
2000 people a day? Is she confusing mountain biking with the Taste of Chicago?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
IllinoisRider
CAMBr Board Member
CAMBr North Treasurer
Slow but steady is my way
OfflineDuPage County
Pro
Posts: 1307
Chapter: North
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2008
|
|
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 07:00:52 PM » |
|
If you read the comments, apparently this 2,000 mountain bikers claim came from Matt Knowles. I'm not sure how accurate that claim is, however.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
mikeo
CAMBr Member
OfflineMorton Grove, il
Expert
Posts: 365
Chapter: North
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2010
|
|
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 08:38:25 PM » |
|
If they want to keep it natural they should remove all man-made structures, fence the area in, and reintroduce bison, wolves, and black bears  . |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
I pick bad lines
CAMBr Board Member
CAMBr West Treasurer
OfflineNaperville
Pro
Posts: 3726
Chapter: West
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2007
|
 |
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 08:56:35 PM » |
|
Tim, you know how inaccurate that number is. We all know.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
I pick bad lines
CAMBr Board Member
CAMBr West Treasurer
OfflineNaperville
Pro
Posts: 3726
Chapter: West
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2007
|
|
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 08:56:58 PM » |
|
2000 a month? Maybe?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
IllinoisRider
CAMBr Board Member
CAMBr North Treasurer
Slow but steady is my way
OfflineDuPage County
Pro
Posts: 1307
Chapter: North
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2008
|
|
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 09:41:22 PM » |
|
Tim, you know how inaccurate that number is. We all know.
I meant I don't know if Matt really said that. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Jewalicious
Moderator CAMBr Board Member
South Board - Secretary
Beer Sooner is Better.....
OfflineDarien IL
Semi-Pro
Posts: 733
Chapter: South
Type: Big Wheel Member
Member Since: 2011
|
|
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 05:02:14 PM » |
|
I dont want trails that "are wide enough for riders and fans to cheer them on" WTF?? I have no problem volunteering time, sweat to help get sustainable, international quality multi use, single track trails or even some downhill -esque trails since there is a hill -o- $#!* on-premises already..... My vote would be to "keep it all on the $#!*-pile."
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
11 Trek HiFi Plus
02 Trek 8000
95 Manitou HT Comp17 (now SS)
Silver Infiniti FX
|
|
|
Ballickarkingofthefairies
CAMBr Member
There are 10 types of people in the world, those that can read binary and those that can’t.
Its good to be the king
Offlineland of the fairies
Expert
Posts: 440
Chapter: West
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2009
|
|
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2012, 02:20:36 AM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
I speak many languages including Klingon and binary.
|
|
|
Redbaron
Moderator CAMBr Board Member
CAMBr North President, CAMBr Treasurer
OfflineBartlett
Pro
Posts: 1435
Chapter: North
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2007
|
|
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2012, 06:26:50 AM » |
|
Interesting quote on their front page!
“The clearest way into the universe is through a forest wilderness."
John Muir
Have they seen the Mountain Biking Trails in Kettle Moraine, WI (The John Muir trail)!
Mike
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Work hard, play hard. Look after our environment.
|
|
|
IllinoisRider
CAMBr Board Member
CAMBr North Treasurer
Slow but steady is my way
OfflineDuPage County
Pro
Posts: 1307
Chapter: North
Type: Supporting Member
Member Since: 2008
|
|
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2012, 07:08:42 AM » |
|
That rebuttal was a great read.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
BPBP
Offline
Citizen
Posts: 81
|
|
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2012, 08:16:05 AM » |
|
I am a causal mountain biker. Nonetheless, I have to agree that converting this forest into a biking area will not be in the best interest of the Kane County Forest Preserve. I have driven down to the Palos Hills area to bike only to find that the trails were temporarily closed because bikers were not adhering to the rules. Erosion was becoming a real problem. From the comments on http://forlandssake.orgA.) What is a "causal" mtb'er? B.) Love the logic that the trails are closed BECAUSE of erosion, not to prevent erosion. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
